A dream. And then a trauma of the pandemic was that our breathing became a danger to strangers and beloveds. I never go there very much anymore. And then what happened was the list that was in my head of poems I wasnt going to write became this poem. So I want to do two more, also from The Carrying. Her volume The Carrying won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Poetry, and her book Bright Dead Things was a finalist for the National Book Award. I think coming back to this idea that poetry is as embodied as it is linguistic. Dont get me wrong, I do But in reality its home to so many different kind of wildlife. Centuries of pleasure before us and after. And you could so a lot of what he knew in Spanish and remembered in Spanish were songs. So my interest, when I get into conversation with a poet, is not to talk, poetry, but to delve into what this way with words and sound and silence teaches us. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and the Art of Living by Krista Tippe at the best online prices at eBay! And so I have. and the stoic farmer and faith and our father and tis So how to get out? Tippett: Yeah. Starting Thursday, February 2: three months of soaring new On Being conversations, with an eye towards emergence. So it felt right to listen again to one of our most beloved shows of this post-2020 world. in the ground, under the feast up above. Tacos. Because you did write a great essay called Taco Truck Saved my Marriage.. Our closing music was composed by Gautam Srikishan. And if I had to condense you as a poet into a couple of words, I actually think youre about and these are words you use also wholeness and balance. Do you remember the Colbert Report when Stephen Colbert was doing the earlier show, and he had this one skit where he said, I love breathing, I could do it all day long. [laughter] And I always think about that because of course, its so ironic that we have to think about our breath. And I feel like its very interesting when you actually have to get away from it, because you can also do the other thing where you focus too much on the breath. We think time is always time. We nurture virtues that build muscle memory towards sustained new realities including generous listening, embodied presence, and transformative relationship across backgrounds and lived experience. enough of the animal saving me, enough of the high And we all have this, our childhood stories. enough of can you see me, can you hear me, enough So it felt right to listen again to one of our most beloved shows of this post-2020 world. At human pace, they are enlivening the world that they can see and touch. And its a very interesting thing to be a kid that goes back and forth, and Im sure many people have this experience or have had that experience, where youre moving from one home to another. I really love . This is like a self-care poem. So I think there was a lot of, not only was it music, but then it was music in Spanish. chaotic track. Limn: Yeah. My grandmother is 98. Every Thursday a new discovery about the immensity of our lives and frequent special features like poetry, music and Q + A with Krista. a finalist for the National Book Award. There is also an ordinary and abundant unfolding of dignity and care and generosity, of social creativity and evolution and breakthrough. And it was this moment of like, Oh, this is abundance. And now Ill just say it again: they are the publisher of the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. the pummeling of youth. is so bright and determined like a flame, Wisdom Practices and Digital Retreats (Coming in 2023). And we think, Well, what are we supposed to do with that silence? And we read naturally for meaning. Limn: Yeah. So I think were going to just have a lot of poetry tonight. I get four parents that come to the school nights. And I felt like I was not brave enough to own that for myself. And Im not sure Ive had a conversation across all these years that was a more unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief. Limn: I think its very dangerous not to have hope. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. Our lovely theme music is provided and composed by Zo Keating. and the world. Its so interesting because I feel like one of the things as you age, as an artist, as a human being, you start to rethink the stories that people have told you and start to wonder what was useful and what was not useful. 25 Sep. 2014. And theyre like, Oh, I didnt know that was a thing. [laughs]. These, it turns out, are as common in human life globally as they are measurably health-giving and immunity-boosting. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. And I knew immediately that it was a love poem and a loss poem. And I wonder if you think about your teenage self, who fell in love with poetry. Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. And I hope, I dont think anybody here will mind. And I am so thrilled to have this conversation with Ada Limn to be part of our first season. It is still the river. And: advance invitations and news on all things On Being, of course. I just set my wash settings to who Id like to be in 2023: Casual, Warm, Normal., Yeah, that was true. And it wasnt until really, when I was writing that poem that the word came to me. capture, capture, capture. And then what happened was the list that was in my head of poems I wasnt going to write became this poem. about being fully human this adventure were all on that is by turns treacherous and heartbreaking and revelatory and wondrous. Silence, which we dont get enough of. Limn: It is still the wind. And so, its so hard to speak of, to honor, to mark in this culture. rough wind, chicken legs, Yeah. . Between. But I think there was something deeper going on there, which was that idea of, Oh, this is when you pack up and you move. And I even had a pet mouse named Fred, which you would think I wouldve had a more creative name for the mouse, but his name was Fred. You boiled it down. This is not a problem. But the song didnt mean anything, just a call, to the field, something to get through before, the pummeling of youth. for it again, the hazardous I really believe that poetry is something we humans need almost as much as we need water and air. And I know that when I discovered it for myself as a teenager that I thought, Oh, this is more like music where its like something is expressing itself to you and you are expressing yourself to it. All year, in an oblivion-is-coming sort of way. If you live, It wasnt used as a tool. It brings us back to something your grandmother was right about, for reasons she would never have imagined: you are what you eat. We endeavor to make goodness and complexity riveting. The truth is, Ive never cared for the National, Anthem. "Beauty isn't all about just nice loveliness, like," O'Donohue tells Tippett. If you are here, you are likely already part of this. Yeah. Its almost romantic as we adjust the waxy blue. Learn more at kalliopeia.org. It makes room for all of these things that can also be It holds all the truths at once too. On Being with Krista Tippett. But I think there was something deeper going on there, which was that idea of, Oh, this is when you pack up and you move. And I even had a pet mouse named Fred, which you would think I wouldve had a more creative name for the mouse, but his name was Fred. And this poem was basically a list of all the poems I didnt think I could write, because it was the early days of the pandemic, and I kept thinking, just that poetry had kind of given up on me, I guess. And both parents all four of my parents, I should say would point those things out, that special quality of connectedness that the natural world offers us. Alex Cochran, Deseret News. I really love . And that was in shorter supply than one would think. Maybe that speaks for itself. You said a minute ago that the poetry has breath built into it, and you said also that, you have said: its meant to make us breathe. So would you read, its called Before, page 46. And here was something that was so well crafted and people to this day will say its one of the most expert villanelles ever written its so well crafted, and yet it doesnt actually offer any answers. And for a long time Sundays kind of unsettled me, even as an adult. I feel like the short poem, maybe read that one, the After the Fire poem is such a wonderful example of so much of what weve been talking about, how poetry can speak to something that is impossible to speak about. And I love it, but I think that you go to it, as a poet, in an awareness of not only its limitations and its failures, but also very curious about where you can push it in order to make it into a new thing. Sometimes it sounds, sometimes its image, sometimes its a note from a friend with the word lover. Who am I to live? Right? by the crane. And it is definitely wine country and all of the things that go along with that. What was it? These are heavier, page 86 and page 87. And so I gave up on it. Yes. So it had this kind of wonderful way of existing in an aliveness of a language, aliveness of a second language as opposed to just sort of a need to get something or to use. I mean, thats how we read. Our younger listeners have asked to hear adrienne maree browns voice on On Being, and here she is, as we enter our own time of evolution. Tippett: You hosted this, The Slowdown podcast, this great poetry podcast for a while and. of the kneeling and the rising and the looking But in reality its home to so many different kind of wildlife. And so thats really a lot of how I was raised. recycling bin until you say, Man, we should really learn I mean, even that question you asked, What am I supposed to do with all that silence? Thats one way to talk about the challenge of being human and walking through a life. And I feel like its very interesting when you actually have to get away from it, because you can also do the other thing where you focus too much on the breath. Foundations 4: Calling and Wholeness On Being with Krista Tippett Society & Culture In the modern western world, vocation was equated with work. Yeah, there wasnt a religious practice. But I want you to read it second, because what I found in. Tippett: And we were given to remember that civilization is built on something so tender as bodies breathing in proximity to other bodies. Okay, Im going to give you some choices. And I found it really useful, a really useful tool to go back in and start to think about what was just no longer true, or maybe had never been true. Thats the work of poetry in general, right? on all sides with want. And also that phrase, as Ive aged. You say that a lot and I would like to tell you that you have a lot more aging to do. Here it is again as an offering for Mothers Day in a world still and again in flux, and where the matter of raising new human beings feels as complicated as ever before. just the bottlebrush alive squeal with the idea of blissful release, oh lover, My familys all in California. inward and the looking up, enough of the gun, tags: curiosity , listening , oral-history , vulnerability. I feel like that between space, that liminal space, is a place where we were living for so long, and many of us still living in that between space of, How do I go into the world safely, and how do I move through the world with safety and care-take myself and care-take others. by even the ageless woods, the shortgrass plains, I'm not often one for Schadenfreude, but I may have felt it a bit yesterday, when friend told me that they'd heard NPR announce that Krista Tippett 's "On Being" Show, which I've railed against for years, is finally ending its two-decade stint on NPR. At a special TEDPrize@UN, journalist Krista Tippett deconstructs the meaning of compassion through several moving stories, and proposes a new, more attainable definition for the word. bliss before you know And its page six of. God, which I dont think were going to get to talk about today. Draco, Lacerta, Hydra, Lyra, Lynx. Join our constellation of listening and living. Only my head is for you. Limn: Yeah. Tippett: So I feel like the last one Id like for you to read for us is A New National Anthem, which you read at your inauguration as Poet Laureate. So it had this kind of wonderful way of existing in an aliveness of a language, aliveness of a second language as opposed to just sort of a need to get something or to use. Can you locate that? Sylvia gifts us this teaching: that nurturing childrens inner lives can be woven into the fabric of our days and that nurturing ourselves is also good for the children and everyone else in our lives. Every week: practices and goodies to accompany your listen. Its a prose poem. Thats so wonderful. back and forth on Sundays and it was not easy The science of awe. I have people who ask me, How do you write poems? And you talk about process. So Sundays were a different kind of practice, if you will, a different kind of observation. I think thats very true. And so I think my investigation or my curiosity is not so much talking about poetry, but about where poetry comes from in us and what poetry works in us. I just saw her. not forgetting and star bodies and frozen birds, enough of the will to go on and not go on or how, a certain light does a certain thing, enough, of the kneeling and the rising and the looking. Yeah, I had a moment where I hadnt realized how delighted I was to go about my world without my body. Sometimes its just staring out the window. But I think theres so much in this poem thats about that idea that the thesis thats returned to the river. Im Krista Tippett, and this is On Being. Jen Bailey, and so many of you. We journalists, she wrote, can summon outrage in five words or less. Like, Oh, take a deep breath. Then we get annoyed when it works, too. Ada Limn. Limn: Yeah. But I love it. Thats how this machine works. the ego and the obliteration of ego, enough But I think the biggest thing for me is to begin with silence. I think there was also he also was a singer, so he would just sing. She hosts the On Being podcast and leads The On Being Project, a non-profit media and public life initiative that pursues deep thinking and moral imagination, social courage and joy, towards the renewal of inner life, outer life, and life together. And is it okay for me to spend time looking at this tree? This means that I am in a reciprocal relationship with the natural world, not that it is my job to be the poet that goes and says, Tree, I will describe it to you.. Tippett: [laughs] Yeah. Im so excited for your tenure representing poetry and representing all of us, and Im excited that you have so many more years of aging and writing and getting wiser ahead, and we got to be here at this early stage. Was there a religious or spiritual background in your childhood there, however you would describe that now? the drama, and the acquaintances suicide, the long-lost These full-body experiences of isolation and ungrieved losses and loneliness and fear and uncertainty. unnoticed, sometimes covered up like sorrow, The On Being Project is located on Dakota land. The original idea, when we say like our, thesis statement, or even when we say like. But when we talk about the limitations of language in general, I find language is so strange. the ground and the feast is where I live now. Were back at the natural world of metaphors and belonging. Helping to build a more just, equitable and connected America one creative act at a time. God, which I dont think were going to get to talk about today. Dedicated to reconnecting ecology, culture, and spirituality. Youll see why in a minute. Two entirely different brains. the high notes with a beer sloshing in the stands and I never knew survival and isnt that enough? A scholar of belonging. A scholar of magic. She grew up loving science fiction, and thought wed be driving flying cars by now; and yet, has found in speculative fiction the transformative force of vision and imagination that might in fact save us. Before the new marriage. I was actually born at home. And then to do it on top of really global grief, that is a very kind of different work because then you think, Well, who am I to look at this flower? And I think most poets are drawn to that because it feels like what were always trying to do is say something that cant always entirely be said, even in the poem, even in the completed poem. Nov 28, 2022. What Amanda has been gathering by way of answers to that question is an extraordinary gift to us all. We touch each other. No, question marks. Limn: Yeah. Easy light storms in through the window, soft, edges of the world, smudged by mist, a squirrels, nest rigged high in the maple. It makes room for all of these things that can also be It holds all the truths at once too. Dr. Rachel Naomi Remen is one of the wise people in our world. We were so focused on survival and illness and vaccines and bad news. Adventures into what can replenish and orient us in this wild ride of a time to be alive: biomimicry and the science of awe; spiritual contrarianism and social creativity; pause and poetry and more towards stretching into this world ahead with dignity, wisdom and joy. In a political and cultural space that rewards certainty, ferments argument, and hastens closure, we nourish and resource the interplay between inner life, outer life, and life together. into an expansion, a heat. An electric conversation with Ada Limns wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. Sometimes it feels like language and poetry, I often start with sounds. [laughter] Were like, Ugh, I feel calmer.. But let me say, I was taken And I was feeling very isolated. Tippett: Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. Why dont you read The Quiet Machine? And whats good for my body and my mental health. All of those things. And if you cant have hope, I think we need a little awe, or a little wonder, or at least a little curiosity. . and enough of the pointing to the world, weary Too high for most of us with the rockets. She hosts the On Being podcast and leads The On Being Project, a non-profit media and public life initiative that pursues deep thinking and moral imagination, social courage and joy, towards the renewal of inner life, outer life, and life together. Thats really hard. Each of us imprints the people in the world around us . And now we have watched it in these 25 years go from strength, to strength, to strength. And when people describe you as a poet, theyll talk about things about intimacy and emotional sincerity and your observations of the natural world. Its still the elements. Just uncertainty is so hard on our bodies. And I was having this moment where I kept being like, Well, if I just deeply look at the world like I do, as poets do, I will feel a sense of belonging. And then I kept thinking, What are the other things I can do that with?. We value the ancient power of storytelling, and we get that good stories require conflict, characters and scene. enough of the will to go on and not go on or how Musings and tools to take into your week. We were brought together in a collaboration between Northrop at the University of Minnesota and Milkweed Editions. I have a lot of poems that basically are that. How to make that more vibrant, more visible, and more defining? No, really I was. Theres this poem which Ive never heard anybody ask you to read called Where the Circles Overlap, . And thought, How am I right now at this moment? Okay. The fear response, the stress response, it had so many other kinds of ripple effects that were so perplexing. Page 20. So well just be on an adventure together. I mean, I do right now. no hot gates, no house decayed. The phrase mental health itself makes less and less sense in light of the wild interactivity we can now see between what weve falsely compartmentalized as physical, emotional, mental, even spiritual. Yeah. Amanda Ripley began her life as a journalist covering crime, disaster, and terrorism. And the next one is Dead Stars. Which follows a little bit in terms of how do we live in this time of catastrophe that also calls us to rise and to learn and to evolve. But at a deeper level, she says, we are trapped in a pattern of distress known as high conflict where the conflict itself has become the point, and it sweeps everything into its vortex. The listener wants to understand the humanity behind the words of the other, and patiently summons one's own best self and one's own best words and questions.". sometimes buried without even a song. Find them at, Dedicated to reconnecting ecology, culture, and spirituality. She hosted On Being on the radio for about two decades. And you mentioned that when you wrote this, when was it that you wrote it? So that even when youre talking about the natural world: we are of it not in it. and gloss. was like that. Limn: Yeah. Tippett: The thesis. Its so interesting because I feel like one of the things as you age, as an artist, as a human being, you start to rethink the stories that people have told you and start to wonder what was useful and what was not useful. Ada Limn reads her poem, "Dead Stars.". And the one Id love you to read is Not the Saddest Thing in the World. This is the one where I felt like theres subtlety to it, but you just named so much in there. Tippett: I mean, even that question you asked, What am I supposed to do with all that silence? Thats one way to talk about the challenge of being human and walking through a life. With. It suddenly just falls apart [laughter], Limn: and I feel like there are moments that I travel a lot in South America, with my husband, and by the end of the second week, my brain has gone. With an unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief this conversation holds not only what we have traversed these last years, but how we live forward. Im learning so many different ways to be quiet. Then in 2018, she published a brilliant essay called "Complicating the Narratives," which she opened by confessing a professional existential crisis. I dont know why this, but this. And I remember reading it was Elizabeth Bishops. I would say about 50 percent, maybe 60 percent of it was written during the pandemic. Thank you all for coming. And it sounds like thunder? A friend, lover, come back to the five-and-dime. I feel like theres a level in which it offers us a place to be that feels closer to who we are, because there is always that interesting moment where someone asks you who you are, even just the simple question of, How are you? If we really took a minute to think about it, How am I? I think there were these moments that that quietness, that aloneness, that solitude, that as hard as they were, I think hopefully weve learned some lessons from that. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. Its wonderful. And I always thought it was just because I had to work. Right now we are in a fast river together every day there are changes that seemed unimaginable until they occurred. adrienne maree brown and others use many words and phrases to describe what she does, and who she is: A student of complexity. I think coming back to this idea that poetry is as embodied as it is linguistic. And I want you to read it. With an unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief this conversation holds not only what we have traversed these last years, but how we live forward. July 4, 2022 9:00 am. Like, Oh, take a deep breath. Then we get annoyed when it works, too. And were you writing The Hurting Kind during the pandemic and lockdown? Yeah. Before I bury him, I snap a photo and beg scratched and stopped to the original We understand questions as technologies and virtues as social arts. I write. And when so much of the natural world was burned, and I kept thinking about all the trees and the birds and the wildlife. Just back to this idea that there is this organic automatically breathing thing of which were part, and that we even have to rediscover that. And enough so that actually, as I would always sort of interrogate her about her beliefs and, Do you think this, do you think that? Yeah. and then, Copyright 2023. Free shipping for many products! I wrote in my notes, just my little note about what this was about, recycling and the meaning of it all. I dont think thats . Thats such a wonderful question. She founded and leads the On Being Project ( www.onbeing.org )a groundbreaking media and public life . This conversation shines a light on an emerging ecosystem in our world over and against the drumbeat of what is fractured and breaking: working with the complex fullness of reality, and cultivating old and new ways of seeing, to move towards a transformative wholeness of living. Krista Tippett is the creator and host of the On Being and Becoming Wise podcasts as well as curator of The Civil Conversations Project. Something that you reflect on a lot that I would love to just draw you out on a bit is I think people who love language the most, and work with language, also are most intensely aware of the limits of language, and thats partly why youre working so hard. 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