I feel that_______. The same power of simple interest saving you money when you pay bi-weekly, hurts you when you miss a payment. Ability to get paid on referrels for Auto and Home. I believe in personal responsibility, and loyalty. Since the government gives the tax benefits to Primerica Agents, I guess you are wrong here too. NO, no company can fit everyone. I studies on my own for about 2 weeks to pass the Mo Life and Health and they didnt have any problem hiring me on with absolutely no college experience related to finance. And they have to be completely the same, otherwise it is not comparing apples to apples. I can still go to law school adn be a lawyer and start my own firm for the hell of itwith or without a pile of clients, Ill still be alright and still be happy. Wrong. They pay 100% first-year advance (at least with our agency). I know that what I am doing is the correct way of doing things and therefore I must only answer for myself. He was not cross selling. Just remember who brought in the downline and who trained the downline. Please not that I said 2 percent, and that plus the 98 makes 100%. Term is the cheapest when? Does that mean you mission is to line your pockets with your clients money? Since Whole life is the most expensive form of cash value the cost will huge. Is death the only way to stop income flow to a family? Now come on. I know you are not an adviser for several reasons. Call me for a sale. we are just sharing what we have learned. Fortunately, each State regulates insurance business, so each producer and company will be held accountable. Sneaky things agents will do to cheat, lie and steal from their clients. And my downlines weret. I dont have the ability or the resources. @will I am in sales. If their full-time job doesnt allow it how do they make it a year with PFS? I checked the internet pricing searching multiple providers and the cheapest I could find was only $4 cheaper per month. Again, whatever you can do in PFS, you can do better on the outside. If you understand that it has to do with the fact you are paying forward. WMA had to close down, but then they jsut created WFG. The only thing that being a non captive, is that you have no loyalty to any company. Since you are doing that with your clients, one can only hope you are a decent a.c. repair person. Life insurance is to protect the family if you die early. Its FOR the individual who is MOTIVATED to get off his butt and change his life for the better by using a vehicle that provides Federal/State Professional Licenses to his disposal. Wrong. Great. I have an annuity from Primerica. Its kind of like saying McDonalds hamburgers are the best without trying Wendys or Burger King. This is what Mike said was a great company to place your families security. Right now Primerica only has about 2% market penetration so its going to take lots more effort. To be honest, Primerica as a whole and under the right training really does put the consumer first. If you did the right thing, they would be retiring, and enjoying their golden years. Friend of mine had some great term. This is something that every competent adviser has said to stay away from, but James said it is a great thing. Doing so means that you will lose the client. The baby kissing should be left up to the politicians and I must no go wash up feeling dirty after reading Tom only client responses. So would she. It is one of the only parts that is worth anything, that is why they are trying to sell it to raise capital. However, with todays competitive market, both in products and career opportunities, there truly is no overwhelming reason to do business with them, or to go into business with them. They said since you bought from XYZ company, they could contact you since they are a sister/brother/Parent company of that company. Probably not. One you sell price not value. Find out because you dont want to miss this. It was shame they did not get the same treatment the Mortgage industry is getting now. As for the best products, only the fool chases after the next best thing. Outside PFS to earn the big incomes you can have a choice of personal production or by building a team depending on the company you align yourself with. By doing so, Data Independence can be achieved. I do not have to give my trainer my first 5 or 6 sales in order to learn the business. Yes PFS wasnt for me. Me as being a prospect thanks to this I have all my info and if guys like you have something to hide and if you are ashamed of being called an agent contracted by Primerica then there is something wrong. And since you keep saying cheaper, here is another story. They have the least worth for any good information. If you argue with fools then why do I want to be taken down to their level? Which means they can offer any products they feel that their client needs. The guy told me, I have to work for my money. Oh by the way, this is the James that posted on July 26, 2008 James @ 9:25 pm for the first time. SHAME ON YOU!! They do have several ways to get your out of debt, the true cancer of the Middle American Family. , Depends. You are proving the old adage: And then you place your email address here to gather business. It is evident in the way they talked about everything as a have to. This ought to be good. Since he has not clarified this He must be keeping with his first statement. They know what is out there and have been approached. Williams and Associates, Inc. After a series of expansions and acquisitions by predecessors of Citigroup Inc. throughout the late 1980s and 1990s, the organization was refounded in April 2010 as Primerica, Inc., an independent and publicly traded company. So, somehow being a broker came to be one of my options after being a lawyerwhich i LOVE, LOVE LOVE law and so I began my quest. Along my journey in school I took a summer job in desktop technical support (trying out different things) and met my upline. I know it is hard to believe but there are still places like that. Remember you need to go to class, get fingerprinted, and your background tested. top of that there are indexed annuities which you dont have. And fixed ones are only good for lump sums that you do not want to beat inflation not just keep up with it. Again, I am not an agent. Tom, you said, by the way in past posts you have said you were an agent. Since my that is a waste, why woudl I want to work with a company that sells garbage? State prisons systems only have three security levels. Since it has been proven on many boards that those that are fighting the most against Primerica are those that lose business to them. WebThe Bible doesnt mention about the different levels as such in a direct manner, however, there are some verses that potentially indicate the same. West Coast Life By the way, IF you own a company that paid it salespeople more, where would you get that extra money from? Lafayette Life Please, show us how the PrimElite IV is a higher quality product. Tomas, el burro sabe mas que tu. No one will know, but anyone going to a Primerica meeting will see what is the truth. I know the truth. Eventually he paid more not to get those calls and letters. Considering you want whats best for your clients why are limited guaranteed products a better consideration than a fully guaranteed product? Its funny how youll criticize MetL life insurance and then go and use thier annuity product. . They are only interested in what they will bring, not the agent. What you are saying is converting it to Whole,Universal, You bet your life Insurance. I am sure all banks and mortgage brokers show people how to get out of debt faster. But then again maybe his policy is for small things. . Primerica representatives are not attorneys, financial or estate planners, or tax advisors. Prior to termination of this Agreement, these four criteria are not applicable. Could it be that the policies are not as good? Understanding college degree levels can help you decide which degree No. Just like loyalty. Make sure you check with Primerica before you do ANYTHING if they dont like it they can terminate you (read your IBA) sounds like a JOB to me .. Id rather be independent the sad part is most dont know you can be . Tom really flamed me! I had one company selling my company toner that was local. Being non-captive means to me, that I am not forced to sell one product, one service, or having one mindset. Once people understand the issue of a not having to deal with a noncompete and having immediate ownership then its a done deal. (This is conservative since they have started paying for the Securities Licensed.). Next, Primerica has been around for 31 years. First May Kay is Cosmetics. Also, PLEASE post any questions you would like me to ask my trainer! They ahve gone to not even using the three levels at the Georgia Dome, to next year having to plan on two conventions since it is so big. . I was not restricted to only sell or repair one brand. According to the IRS website less than 2% of all individual tax returns filed in 2007 were over $100,000 gross income. ( They did this because that way Primerica, and Citi do not have to take the financial risk of doing the insurance, but still gets the best deal for their clients. When our company already sells a plain vanilla SOLID term with a GOOD long term investment plan, you dont have to go and sell another CHEAP product for another HIGH commission to the same client every other year. Please, lets talk about the products FACTS! And Workers Comp is also bad. No, since it is a waste of money, like accidental death and dismemberment. If you are not a salesman dont join. At least then you will be better off than those that follow Michael or James. Back to the shoe example. But let us see, you policies have to have to be convertible since they do not have guaranteed insurability. But then again you do not make the same amount of money off those items. Not many. We are not here to point fingers at anybody else. sure you may lose some money in life insurance sales. If you need me to feed you ego, TOM YOU WIN! Remember Price only matters in the absence of Value. (Thats Marketing 101, another lesson Ill teach you another time). purpose? Side note: Tom made a nasty comment about the CPA I wrote about that couldnt join PFS. a) I would have lost all this at PFS. that woudl not surprise me. For an example, if I only sold Goodman, I would have to say no. LOL,,Give a person enough rope and they will hang themself. Products and the contract. Like I said clients can go anywhere they want to go. It does include a personal coach. Why would an agent offer term insurance? . The reason why any legtitamate company gives you only 40% is so that the heirs cant come back and sue the comapny for taking away their ability to life after the bread winner is dead. I am curious, You statisics are good, and any one else is meaningless? But I am a client. -. Saw why they went, trained the staff in sales tactics, and closes and over coming objections. You need a pacemaker, do you want the cheapest or the best? 7 Loan origination License. He is more concerned about defending Primerica, than helping the client. Primerica has no loyalty towards you they will do whats in the best interest of the company as you should do whats in the best interest of you and yours. Second, Since I have investigated most of the companies that Michael/ THomas, and other companies out there. I ahve check them out. . But you are toting 35 year term. I am curious, do you say the same thing to your clients with a straight face. Within each level, there are sub-levels based principally on experience and job performance. )You say converting is great when all competent advisers say stay away from cash value. 6. By the way if you are getting 0 to 3 percent on your money and someone shows you where to get 8 to 12%, is that sales? Ive done corporate recruiting and guess what, not everyone wants to change thier life to a MLM anyone with a pulse can be a client life style, and believe me a salary PLUS commission is for the talented and truly competent; I agree, but to get there you need to give up time and money. Michael Thomas @ 2:22 pm I am not sure what company you work for but I know Allstate does nto do that. 5 to 10. The problem is the product they sell is worthless. Since I have been to several meetings every year, since I am a client, I can tell you that you do not have a clue, on what Primerica is, does, or how it works. Both of these duties are outside of my job description. -, John, Would you say the a BMW is worth more than a YUGO? You were offered Primerica. Or do not beleive that Life Insurance is for Income replacement, and not using to go to Disneyland? If you really believed that properly protecting your family with life insurance was in your familys best interest, then Im sure that youd want to do it right away, vs. waiting until you get a license. My Facts and they are not a belief, are based on independent information. The more you post the more they will learn..Everyday they will look in the mirror and it will be there. It is something you lack. I am still in the licensing phase of the employment process. The Primerica Companies protect confidential information Also there is no requirement that nay covert their term paln to a perm. So why do you need income protection when you do not need it. Did you know most funds in the same class have similar if not the same break down. Oh Boy you do not need a medical exam but in your golden years, you can not really retire because your term permiums are so expensive. Auto and home owners insurance Most policies save money on fees if you link them. It is like having the option to buy that leased van after the 7 year period is up. The market that Primerica goes after is not the rich, and it is not the poor. Im going to clear up a few things here. Do they know where to look? I am not here to attack you. The amounts depend from 50K-100K. Since you are talking about converting, this is what my friend had done to him. I also have the ability to make triple the amount of income of your typical financial planneroh and did I mention all the great perks of passive income? stake in their own commissions, it is important for Primerica to preserve its customer base and avoid unfair competition. In the insurance business, they know that the average policy for cash value is gone in 7 years and term is only 10 years. If this is the case then this will be a strong stock to purchase. You are proving the statement: And since you have admitted that Primerica Life is better since it has guaranteed insurability, and yours do not Primerica life gives you more value. And when they have waited to long to invest and have the money they need, they blame everyone but themselves. Who is the person posting? I have already clarified LTD to you and you still keep bringing it up, I guess you do not remember that. I know my competition. The RVP contract is about Primerica procedures. You could ahve done something unethical, or improper. It shouldnt lead one to believe I know or think I know everything. I do not know, but since most are to make some extra money, that is the best way. Since you have missed that is several of my posts, I can only guess most of what is said to you by your clients is missed. You agree to treat this information as confidential, and not to use or disclose this information except as necessary to conduct your Primerica business. You are saying that no one will need life insurance for that long but that is because you dont know estate preservation strategies. The five security levels in the federal prison system are minimum, low, medium, high, and administrative. If I were at PFS I couldnt do certain things without the ok of the company and or my RVP..If I have a health license and I get laid off from my 9-5, why cant I go out and sell health insurance if it can help feed my family? Since Bill Just wants to attack, he must be one of those insurance agents that are losing business to Primerica Value. Most people are willing to pay for service, and quality. Primerica does allow you to renew it with out a medical exam. I can chose whomever I want to represent, that will meet my clients needs. Again what does a 65 year want: A bill for insurance that says they are worth 1 million dollars dead, or a million dollars in cash? Compare quotes from participating carriers via Policygenius.com. I am curious who set this up for him? Always off the topic. Call me for a quote. Costing them money in Bonuses. This is one of the biggest reason you want to RUN from PFS. Primerica and its employees donate a significant amount to charity. Most people are willing to pay for quality and service. The FACTS. You sell mortgages that have the optional payment. Yes we get paid four waysYes we get actual licenses.Yes people are going to talk crap about the company because 1 out of 10 will make it hereand Yes the industry is threatened by our crusade. I like options. You can not sell a fixed / index annuities . You know they can;t be making money on that laptop for 200 dollars, but what they get you on is the warrantee, and the extras. You tend to bring up issues in your own mind and say others are in that thought process. I think you are confused. You are proving the adage: A little knowledge is very dangerous.. -, Since we never talk about this point. They copied it from Primerica. They would charge more for people with bad credit scores, because they might use insurance more than peopel with good credit. If an PFS agent is really at PFS to help people i strongly suggest you dont read message boards, because sooner or later your going to hear things and see things at trainings and you wont be able to look in the mirror. This was there way to hedge their bets. IT is the lowest form of attack, it means you have reach desperation.!. I have had friends of my family that have to borrow to bury their parents because they were sold some insurance. If they wont/cant cover a client, what do they do? Sure the 10% to 12% is not the best for mutual funds but adding 2% on top of 10% to 12% is still way better than the banks GIC crap on which you get around 3% rate of return. I was enjoying what I was doing and was finding some success and therefore decided to quit my job in February; the money I was making with PFS justified this move. Did you know that the red underline means their is a problem. If they need cash. Dont get me wrong, Im not saying Primerica agents do anything wrong or unethical, its just that when you hear a speaker say that you are the only company doing whats right or you have no competition something you may have read will stick in your craw and then the leaving process will begin. It is like sales amn saying all those things about Primerica, had to eat his words. If Primerica will monitor message boards dont you think they would look at a quoting site if their product was being mentioned and quoted on the site? Not everyone had to come in at the lower level. Does PFS pay for this license? Thats just my personal experience with Primerica. , ***How is that fair? I otherwise would not have sought out investment advice or invested. The reason I do this is because if they have a bigger, better, and cheaper product, lets bring them in with us. Mortgages can vary based on compound and simple interest rates. I know up front what percent I am to receive as a Rep, and Im okay with it. (Up to your limits) Home Owners insurance protects you from any accidents and loss you might have since you are owning the property. (Reminds me of Michael, but that is humor.) But then again I am willing to pay for quality. I plan to work as a nurse part time (have accepted an offer already) and plan to work with primerica part time as well. And how much did it cost you? Do you not have an income-earning opportunity to offer? I know all those carriers and your figures are available to the public. Oh man back to the ROP issue ***Look at the cost and the difference in coverage amounts..Same cost with a $75,000 spread. I guess being captive has it benefits. So I went to his office this evening to hear more, because I really had no clue what services they provided. It sounds like you just hate them since they are taking your clients away. Are you Life Insurance Licensed? You say buy ROP for the savings. He said in a previous post hwe was going to ignore me. ahve I get a call every tiem he wants to sell me something, or when he wants me to sell. invest the difference in the same mutual fund you would have picked except they -. I do not wish to carry on this rebuttal since there really is no positive outcome. He said they are less than Primerica. Since you do not know this, may be you do not anything eles you are posting. Yet now, he does what he wants, when he wants. Thats it for now, Ill try and post more later. Securities offered by PFS Investments Inc. Home Office: 1 Primerica Parkway Duluth, GA 30099. Hopefully you dont go based of this review. So if you sell a CHEAP product, its exactly that, a CHEAP product. Ranked #10 Aviva Life and Annuity Company 76.10 a month, Sells Cash value. Or do you think the Companies give money free to agents? Yes I should have taken more care in my spelling, LOL. Zero Well, if you arent a terrible person that is. If you dont mind lying to people all day and taking advantage of the desperate, and likely (a Theres a cost for everything. You need to keep paying on the policy for the entire time. I am glad you said that Primerica sells term inorder to get in the door so they can offer other products, loans, investments, prepaid legal, long term care, Auto and Homeowners Insurance Referral Program etc. These are the small buyers, those that were not knowledgeable about these items. Proteins have four levels of organization. These are two things that Michael/Thomas does not understand. Primerica would not allow a site to just post rate information. I had to say i was giving her what we (PFS) could offer. the new program something you might not understand includes Securities, Mortgage and Auto and Home *(Referrals). ________________-. You see not all things are for all people. Tom says: Well you are wrong here so much let me hit on the answer. EVERY business recruits and trains people in order to grow. Do you know it was illegal for Christians to make any money on the money they loaned to people. American-Amicable. I know some of them cause I use them, and means more of my money will be going to my heirs instead of a cash value salespersons pocket. This Agreement may be terminated by either party with or without any reason or cause. Slowly moving up the ladder the commissions are split between each level. I am great that Bill has posted some of the companies he sells for. Well what you profess cost more but offer some features free. If you want to build wealth, you need to stay with a variable. You do need to recruit if you want to eventually have a decent residual income and have a business, that one day you can pass on to your children. Coverage: $400,000. They look out for the clients best interests. -. Since the money is supposed to be used for the family after their death, why would anyone want to short change their family? Hmmmm.its a win win situation for a clients and us. These policies provide a level premium for a specified period. Sorry to say but the reason you are new to the industry and not receiving salary plus commission is because you have a history of slacking off in either your academic studies or other employment; hence your last desparation to grab this opportunity that youll soon find has a very poor pay out. The first thing they want from you is a list of 20 of your friends and family. And he chose these companies. But then again The IRS says it is. 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